In this episode of the Cuick 10 Podcast, Derek White, COO of Cuick Trac, is joined by Khanh Tran, CEO at Biorn Group Cyber, to discuss how empathy, education, and scoping are at the core of a sustainable CMMC strategy. Khanh shares how his nonprofit roots shaped a mentorship-first approach to cybersecurity consulting and why SMBs often get overwhelmed by overbuilt solutions. They break down how clarity around scope, size-appropriate tools, and human connection can lead to better CMMC outcomes — and a stronger Defense Industrial Base.